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Since the creation of the “MK POLIS” site in 2013, Alexandre has established himself as a reference in this field, transcending linguistic borders with his work translated into several languages.

In 2011, Alexandre Lebreton participated in the creation of the “Pédopolis” site dedicated to child crime, a database on all cases with updates according to current events. It is also a beautiful and important initiative: a map representing known legal cases of incest and abusive placement, which allows victims to come together by department to support each other.

In 2013, he founded the site “MK Polis” and then the YouTube channel, which bears his name, on which he makes available his research on the subject of satanic ritual abuse and its origins, as well as on MK-Ultra mind control. , dissociative identity disorder and traumatic amnesia, particularly in the entertainment industry. In 2014, he collaborated with Roch Sauquere who asked him to produce a file on ritual abuse and mental control. This file will be published in the magazine “Top secret” in October and December 2014. It will subsequently be greatly expanded and reworked to finally result, in 2016, in its first 700-page book: “MK – Ritual abuse and mental control” which is the only French-speaking work also provided, making it a reference in the subject. This will follow, a few years later, in 2020, “Freemasonry and schizophrenia: Understanding the mysteries of power” which is a work which amply complements the first work.

In 2022, “MK- Ritual Abuse and Mind Control” was translated into several languages.
Moreover, in 2023, a copy in English was given to Mike Smith, the director of “Out of Shadow” and “Into the light” by Sylvia Miami.

Interview carried out by Team Fsociety in collaboration with the Media in 4-4-2

Team Fsociety: Hello Alexandre, thank you for taking this time for this interview and answering a few questions. Thanks to your research on ritual abuse and disorders related to this trauma, many people are aware of the subject. You are the reference on this subject in France and for that thank you.
How did you become interested in network child crime? Is it through a particular case?

Alexandre Lebreton: Hello and thank you to Team Fsociety and Media in 4-4-2 for the invitation.
It was in 2007 that my research on these particularly sensitive issues began. It was in particular through the discovery of the work of Stan Maillaud and Janet Seemann, but also of Paul-Emile Charlton, Serge Garde, Laurence Beneux, Alain Gossens and Karl Zéro that this process of untangling a particularly tangled ball began. and shall we say “radioactive”; as this taboo subject can lead to very psychologically disturbing issues, all bathed in a basket of crabs with multiple smoke screens.

It was therefore necessary to follow the thread, show discernment and hold on tightly to undertake this descent towards the arcana, while ensuring that you could easily come back up without sinking. It was in 2009 that the documentary by Maillaud and Seemann “Les Réseaux de l’Horreur” was released, dealing with the Zandvoort CDrom affair (disclosed by the Belgian activist Marcel Vervloesem), but also the book “Vincent Affair: au heart of state terrorism” accompanied by the video testimony of little Vincent (still available on YouTube), describing how his father was involved in what I would later learn was ritual abuse (or paedo-Satanism). Extremely depraved and criminal practices, at first glance incomprehensible to anyone who has never heard of such abuses in our so-called “modern and civilized” latitudes.

Obviously the discovery of the testimony of Judge Roche's children (Alègre affair) as well as the investigation by Pascale Justice entitled “Child rape, the end of silence? » and the historic debate which followed the broadcast of this documentary on France 3, were an electric shock for me, as for many! It was then an additional motivation to try to understand the incomprehensible: horrors and injustices seeming to be systemic in my country, today sadly and shamefully nicknamed “Pédoland”… The easy solution would have been to consider the now famous testimonies of Pierre and Marie as imaginary constructions inspired by comic strips; because this is what Master Monique Smadja-Epstein, lawyer for the father of the children, asserted with cheek, who did not hesitate to refer to the Tintin albums to ridicule and drown out the children's words. We are talking here about descriptions of sectarian activities with gang rape and ritual sacrifice of children amounting to butchery. The mother had to flee abroad with her two children because she could not find justice in the country of human rights...

Little by little I rolled out the ball by doing international research. It was in particular the discovery of the testimony of Cathy O'Brien in the United States which was for me a trigger opening the study of the subject of mental control based on trauma and dissociative states, its dark motivations, its highly coercive methods. and its psychological mechanisms. The shock is brutal: both by the very nature of the abuse taken to the extreme but also by the crass impunity from which the members of these networks, or should we say this network, seem to benefit, a priori untouchable. I very quickly understood that we were dealing here with Pandora's box, the ultimate subject which allows us to understand many things in this world.

Team Fsociety: How did you make the link between networks, ritual abuse and Freemasonry?

Alexandre Lebreton: The question of networks quickly becomes obvious, the numerous files demonstrate that there generally exists an organization involving several individuals united because they have the same center of interest: here child crime. Starting with the “Ballets Roses” case, a morals affair which hit the headlines in 1959 due to the involvement of notables and high-ranking political figures with minors. “Fine games” were organized by a police officer, notably inside a hunting lodge (Pavillon du Butard) which was at the time made available to the President of the National Assembly André Le Troquer. The latter benefited from a prostitution network involving young girls aged 12 to 20 (at the time the majority was 21). I cannot elaborate here on the numerous cases involving network operation, but here are the best known, even if for some the media doxa persists, despite the evidence, to speak of an “isolated predator”: Coral, Kripten, Fourniret, Dutroux, Zandvoort, Louis/Dunand, ToroBravo, CasaPia, Alègre, Orphanat de Jersey, Franklin, Rolodex, Waterhouse, etc.

It is by digging into these files of child criminal networks that we discover certain disturbing testimonies concerning practices of gang rape with torture which can go as far as murder. These seem to be very well organized and planned meetings, during which all moral laws would be evacuated in favor of a liberation of the worst impulses of all; like a bolt that breaks during an evening, to the great detriment of the victims suffering the abominations. At first glance, these are unimaginable stories and denial quickly takes over: the file is closed. It is the multiplication of these testimonies and their resemblance, this on an international scale, which ends up calling into question... The existence of what we call "ritual abuse" or "ritual abuse", sometimes associated with Satanism by the framework and form of the rites or ceremonies then becomes sadly obvious. The study of the Dutroux affair, in particular the X files, provides an overview of what these highly criminal practices are: the statements and minutes recorded and archived by the police, made public by Wikileaks, are to to vomit. The Belgian journalist Xavier Rossey, who investigated the Dutroux affair, wrote: “We can say that there are two types of pedophilia: the “simple” pedophile and the perverted pedophile with this ritual side. When investigating this type of case, we must also look at the occult side of things, ritual assassinations. It is clear that these cases are often discredited and are so horrible that we do not want to go any further. For many, these ritual abuses are inconceivable (…) We tried to pass off Dutroux as a pedophile, which he is not (…) we are here in the context of pedophile ritual abuse. »

The horror of these cases is obviously a hindrance for the general public, a repellent that does not facilitate the recognition of the victims. The denial is massive, yet in its national guide for child protection, the official website of the Scottish government disseminates information concerning this form of child crime that is ritual abuse. We can read this definition: “Ritual abuse can be defined as sexual, physical and psychological assault, in an organized, systematic manner and over a long period of time. It involves the use of rituals, with or without a belief system and usually with multiple perpetrators. Ritual abuse typically begins in early childhood and involves the use of learning and development patterns aimed at reinforcing the abuse and silencing victims (editor's note: mind control). »

So, to answer your question, we could say that there are three phases of awareness making it possible to connect three inseparable points (no pun intended).
• Firstly, awareness of the existence of child criminal networks (and not just virtual ones);
• Secondly, the observation that certain members of these networks can go as far as the worst protocol practices of so-called “satanic” ritual abuse;
• Thirdly, to understand that a cement binds these criminals together and covers their abominations with a covering, in a true institutional protection; and this is where the subject of so-called “initiatory” secret societies comes to the table… notably Freemasonry.

The link between child crime of the ritual abuse type and Freemasonry therefore arrives in a third phase after having first “digested” the first two phases and then persevered in the study. Freemasonry is a sort of parent company; subdivided into a multitude of esoteric schools, called “Mysteries”, some of which are immersed in the darkest occultism. It is a sort of nesting doll partitioning the followers into various hermetic strata, a strict impermeability except for well-detected affinities….
Masonic network and network pedocriminality would indeed seem closely linked. Through my research, over the years I have been able to archive numerous testimonies from victims and therapists describing what we could call “Masonic ritual abuse” aimed at splitting the child's mind; that is to say, to create dissociative states through the multiplication of extreme traumas. Many survivors of these networks have in fact developed dissociative identity disorder (multiple personality).

The Canadian sociologist Stephen Kent, a specialist in sectarian abuses, has personally collected a certain number of testimonies relating to Masonic ritual abuse. While remaining very cautious, he declared in an interview: “From the start of my research, when people gave their testimonies, some revealed “Masonic deviance”. Some indicated that their father was a Freemason and that the allegations of ritual abuse were linked to the Masonic lodge (…) I know that some people who made these accusations were talking about very high degree Freemasons… I also know that when Ordinary Freemasons hear these kinds of accusations, they remain incredulous. For these Freemasons, these accusations are part of a long history of persecution against them due to secrecy, etc. And this is certainly not my intention, I have no reason to demonize them (...) Sometimes The accounts of ritual abuse, although I cannot confirm it, seemed to have taken place inside the lodge itself. The appearance of Freemasonry in a fairly large number of testimonies left me really perplexed... Many speak of altars, black and white floors, columns, at the place of the ceremony (...) I recurring stories, and they are similar to all those found in North America. »

Disturbing, isn't it?

I write in my book MK that “This principle of “initiation” through trauma and dissociative states is the common point of all Luciferian or Satanist fraternal structures, for which initiation during early childhood is the best way to to obtain a loyal, faithful adult, who will perfectly respect the law of silence while perpetuating the obscure tradition where any notion of Good or Evil has been erased in absolute relativism. Rituals involving perverse and immoral acts, particularly child molestation, also make it possible to blackmail the people who took part in them into silence. This makes it possible to create “fraternal” bonds, all the stronger when a human sacrifice, a ritual crime, has been committed in a group. The followers who plunge into this addictive violence feel connected to each other by a secret that it is strictly impossible to reveal to the outside world, it is an unhealthy cement which welds the members together and which gives them a feeling of superiority over the profane human mass. »

Team Fsociety: Can you talk about the origins of pedo-Satanism, the different mystery cults, etc.? Has this given you any clues as to the deep motivations of the authors of these rituals?

Alexandre Lebreton: Having previously cited the three phases of awareness, seeking the origins of “pedo-Satanism” is I would say the fourth phase; one which would make it possible to explain to "lay people" that these horrors have meaning for those who perpetuate them and that it could be the continuity of ancient practices based on what the anthropologist Anthony Wallace describes as: a process ritual learning based on the “Law of Dissociation”.

Let us be clear that explaining is not excusing, these pedocriminal abominations are subject to the death penalty.

When we discover and integrate the fact that pedo-Satanism is a reality of this world, it is in the order of things to want to understand these actions, that is to say the psychodynamics which pushes these dark individuals to ritualize the torture and rape in a formal manner... for what purposes, what are their obscure motivations?
It is, I think, from this angle that we must approach the subject to succeed in breaking the massive self-protective denial of the masses. We must take a step back and analyze the phenomenon beyond the affect and the strong emotions that it naturally provokes.

The American psychoanalyst Lloyd deMause was largely interested in the subject of sectarian excesses on children and in particular in the question of paedo-Satanism. According to him, the only way to give meaning to certain elements reported in testimonies of ritual abuse would be to consider that it is a question of symbolically and even physically reviving the trauma of birth; in a sort of “traumatic reconstruction”.
We find confinement in symbolic wombs (cages, boxes, coffins, but also real organic wombs), hanging upside down which reproduces the sensation that the fetus experiences in its mother's womb. Submerging the head in water during torture reproduces the experience of amniotic fluid while suffocation reproduces the anoxia that all babies experience during childbirth. The victim is forced to drink blood and urine, just as the fetus drinks placental blood and bathes in its urine. Rituals are often performed in tunnels or caves, dark and damp underground places symbolizing the confinement of the vaginal canal or womb of mother earth.

Some of these rituals actually seem to create a sort of “initiatory resurrection”. The passage through a symbolic death and rebirth via traumatic rites is a constant in ancient so-called Mystery religions, but also in certain shamanic traditions. These Mystery cults were particularly present in the Mediterranean basin, the Egyptian Mysteries of Isis and Osiris, the Mysteries of Eleusis, Mithras, Attis and Adonis, but also the cult of Bacchus (Dionysus) being the best known. There is no doubt that certain practices of these ancient cults are still perpetuated today via secret societies forming a sort of esoteric, gnostic religion, reserved for the few.

Church of Satan founder Anton Lavey said the rebirth ceremony, which takes place in a large coffin, is common to most lodge rituals. We find this coffin ceremony in the rites of the famous secret society Skull & Bones where the initiate dies into the world to be reborn into the Order... The ultimate "initiation" being to provoke in the candidate an imminent death experience with a astral exit; that is to say an extreme dissociative state propelling the soul of the initiate into another dimension and ending with its reintegration into the physical body, symbolizing a new birth, or initiatory rebirth.

This phenomenon of decorporation is very often reported by rape victims, they affirm that they were no longer in their physical body but saw the scene from the outside with total anesthesia. In his book "The Masonic Initiation", Freemason Walter Leslie Wilmshurst describes well how altered states of consciousness, deep dissociative states, are an essential point in Masonic initiation: "Some dissociative states occur naturally even in people the most balanced and in perfect health (…) a complete “ecstasy”, a state where consciousness then separates from the Ego and the physical body. Such phenomena can be explained by the existence of a more subtle vehicle than the gross physical body; consciousness can be temporarily transferred from one to the other. These two bodies are capable of functioning together in complete independence (…) A Master is someone who has overcome these inabilities to which average underdeveloped men are subject; he has full knowledge and control of all its parts (…) Initiation always occurs when the physical body is in a state of trance or sleep and when the consciousness, temporarily released, is transferred to a higher level. »

The initiation of children through highly traumatic rituals seems unthinkable, unrealistic, but let us realize that for certain sects, learning to suffer but also learning to cause suffering is part of the rites of passage. The goal is to provoke a transcendence of consciousness, an ecstatic spiritual state based neither more nor less on this “Law of Dissociation”, a deep dissociative state triggered by drugs, pain and various deprivations. Trauma has always been considered throughout history as a means of creating modified states of consciousness and opening doors to the world of spirits, contemporary occultists obviously do not deprive themselves of it... including on their own. children.

According to the American psychologist James Randall Noblitt, practices of mind control or mental programming began when groups detected that the application of traumatic rituals could produce these dissociative states going so far as to split the personality of the individual. into several alters, isolated from each other by amnesic walls. These alter personalities can form a real programmable internal hierarchical system. This is what we now call trauma-based mind control, dissociated slave programming. MK-Ultra, today historically and media well referenced, is only the application, in a scientific and military manner, of ancient pagan and esoteric practices. Note here that a certain number of doctors involved in the MK-Ultra experiments were high-level Freemasons, including Dr. Sydney Gottlieb, Dr. Georges Estabrooks and Dr. Ewen Cameron.

Our modern Western society, largely cut off from its spiritual roots, nourished by secularism and consumerism, will have great difficulty understanding and accepting the harsh reality of these ultra-violent sectarian practices. Even more so when the media and political world uses the eiderdown strategy to avoid alerting and informing about this...

However, initiatory sects based on the law of secrecy are not new; the American anthropologist and academic Brian Hayden has studied primitive secret societies dating back to prehistoric times. In his book "The Power of Ritual in Prehistory", he describes the use of "psycho-spiritual" techniques during "ecstatic rituals" (law of dissociation), allowing powerful bonds to be forged between members of the cult. There we find severe physical ordeals, sensory deprivation, human sacrifice but also the notion of voluntary violation of taboos such as the consumption of human flesh. According to him, these primitive secret societies marked a decisive turning point in the evolution of religions by causing a division between popular worship and elitist worship, between exoteric religion and esoteric religion. The Freemason Egyptologist Jan Assmann also speaks of "Religio Duplex", or two-faced religion, to describe these Mystery cults having an exoteric side intended for the uninitiated mass and an esoteric side intended for the elites. Brian Hayden states that children as young as four to six years old, sometimes even younger, could become members of these cults and therefore undergo the initiation rites. Note here that the musicologist Carl de Nys affirms that Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, whose family was immersed in Masonic circles, frequented the enlightened people of Bavaria (illuminati) from a very young age. Based on family correspondence, he reports that little Mozart participated in nocturnal meetings organized at the bottom of a cave called the "witches' hole", located in Aigen Park in Salzburg, and whose entrance was at the time flanked by two columns supporting a winged Sphinx, symbol of the Mysteries of Isis... From Roman times, this cave would have been used by the followers of Mithras and Astarte for we do not really know what initiatory practices. What did little Mozart undergo during these Illuminati ceremonies?

The participation of children in initiation rituals was also reported by Ross Nichols (a specialist in Druidry and Celtic mythology) in his book "The Book of Druidry", where he writes that the Druids "dipped or cooked the child in the fire mystical”. This mystical fire, or blaze of light, being a metaphor symbolizing the deep dissociative state resulting from traumatic initiatory ordeals. The Druids were indeed adept at rituals aimed at transcending pain and fear to emerge born again.

Team Fsociety: By reading the traditional press, we understand that child criminal networks are not taken seriously and are ousted by the “lone predator” theory. In your opinion, do there still exist investigative journalists in the field?

Alexandre Lebreton: In reality the issue of child criminal networks is taken so seriously by the mass media that they are terrified, to the point that a real silence is put in place. This law of silence effectively involves the eternal theory of the “isolated predator”… Any other explanation of a child crime case that could lead public opinion to understand that there is indeed a network operation, worse still, an institutional protection of abominations, is systematically ridiculed and described as a “conspiracy theory”… far-right please! This dusty scarecrow is no longer a match for the evidence and the public is today much more capable of understanding the reality of things than it was a few years ago. Proof of this is that “conspiracy expert” Tristan Mendès France has just publicly validated the existence of child criminal networks, thus moving his focus in the face of the inexorable and sad reality of things.

Are there any honest investigative journalists currently investigating these horror networks? I've no idea. We must hope so, but France is locked out, particularly in the field of journalism. That said, I do not despair and am firmly convinced that this will end up exploding right here in France. Let's continue to work at our small level to investigate and inform with or without a press card!

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